creates jobs. construction jobs are real jobs. >> we threw a graphic up there. $300 billion in the budget for fixing roads and bridges already. but they want to raise more. >> well, eric, a 1 cent tax raises $1.8 billion. if you put it in and it's done on a budget and they finance these things like any private enterprise would do where you say i'm going to okay, i can repair so much this year, next year, et cetera, et cetera, and do it on a rational basis there is nothing wrong. the fact that people are stealing the money. >> eric, ever done anything on a rational bases in d.c. >> they built the roads in the first place. >> ideally, they protect our rights, they don't run roads and sally pays a horrific pictureof poor people not affording the toll. that's not the case in privatized roads, that's n the case thrghout europe where this is practiced. i'll tell you it's not just people who will pay the tolls.